Comments on: Forum Gallery 2008 Summer Show

By: rubenstein418

rubenstein418 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:30 +0000

bullshit.absolutely …
bullshit.absolutely no intuition in his technique/process, nor is there any creativity or origanility in his subject matter/how it’s presented.yea, he paint realistically, but illusion is not everything and a lot of artists could have taken that road.representational is fine, but at least interpret sensation without having a stick up your ass.look at his drawings. he’s good at following the rules, he’s put in the work,but he lacks anything that I would constitute as individuality/inspirational.

By: robkiefer12

robkiefer12 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:30 +0000

Jacob Collins is …
Jacob Collins is better than any of these on display. Knowlege, Vision and Ability are returning to Art… at long last.

By: JoaquinRestrepo

JoaquinRestrepo — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:30 +0000

Really intersting.. …
Really intersting… Thanks for posting

By: szarlie

szarlie — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:29 +0000

beautiful and …
beautiful and instructive

By: rubenstein418

rubenstein418 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:29 +0000

that was my …
that was my point.representational art cannot be lumped.but he is definetly a tight painter.his drawings are bargue drawings.even leonardo has spontaneity with accuracey.don’t get me wrong he is very good.i do like his work(i was much too harsh),but he’s not better than any of the artists on display.he paints with a learned process (looks like form painting).artists should be capable of working in choas,naturaly,without too much caution.look at nerdrum,he’s a painter’s painter.

By: robkiefer12

robkiefer12 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:29 +0000

Wrong on all counts …
Wrong on all counts. Some people are so insensate that they lump all representational painting into a photomechanical exercise… they happen to be the same people who lack any sensitivity to beauty. You don’t see it because you’re blind.

By: FredericWatts

FredericWatts — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:28 +0000

But robkiefer12 is …
But robkiefer12 is right in one regard, not to u idt, but most people are blind when it comes to art or visual things. Collins is way to challenging for most to look at, or even Lipking, Sargent, Velasquez (who are looser) and people read it as “ohh that looks JUST! like a photograph” AS if that was ever the purpose, its the subtle notes that make these artists great, and good painters like myself can tell they’re not from photos, because they have emulated life, not imitated an imitation.

By: FredericWatts

FredericWatts — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:28 +0000

I agree with you …
I agree with you rubenstein, and I am one all for collins as well. Much of this comes down to personal taste. We can’t say collins lacks originality, for his paintings don’t look like photographs, they have a naturalistic sensitivity, however they are probably tighter and more exclusive to reg viewers than most anything out there, other than photorealism, which should really be on imo.

By: jimbobtwo2

jimbobtwo2 — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:28 +0000

Thoughtful…as …
Thoughtful…as much as I do love painting of a realist nature…I have to agree with “rubenstein418″ some realists are stiff and way too formal. It is fine that they paint wonderfully…..”real art…realist or not…has to be indicative of the world we live in …” like or not….they are consummate technicians…but not visionary artists. True vision…is reactionary and exemplary. What do we feel is more important that what do we see. All we are left with is sensation and memory.

By: MrChubbington

MrChubbington — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:49:27 +0000

The pros and cons …
The pros and cons of art , whether it be figuratif or not. Personally I think the most important thing is personality , style and the effect it has on us the viewers. Also being an artist I like freedom and movement more then painfull figuratif representation. At least isn’t rubbish , but I pity the artist who painted those stones! talk about monotony ! i paint professionally and I keep wqell away from paintings that brain damage you. I’ve done my fair share of figuratif art & it”s a pain !